Dr. Ouida Harding joined Chris Alford for this edition of "Ancient-Future Faith" to talk about her ground breaking work in the traditionally Black church in New York. For the first time, she has written and implemented standards for the creation of the position of "Minister of Music for Worship" in the Black church. What was her motivation, and what were the challenges? She and Chris also talk about the common bond of the early church that Christians of all colors have-- and the timely way that this bond might provide a way forward during difficult days.